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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.12.20 18:41:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 20/12/2006 18:41:55
Originally by: Slowboat You don't get it. BOB members will almost never, I say that because there is the rare one or two bob members that will, say anything good about any enemy they fight.
It doesn't fit their propaganda campaign.
What a load of rubbish... BoB will praise pvp competence... by the same token they will verbally slam incompetence.. and thats the way it should be.
ASCN are incompetent.. when it comes to pvp... there are no two ways about it.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.12.20 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 20/12/2006 18:54:54
Originally by: Slowboat
LOL. Look who is talking about loads of rubbish. Until you get involved in this game in any other way then just posting on eve-O your opinions are pretty much just that. If you removed your head from BOB's collective dark damp hole you might actually achieve something of your own more recent then a year and a half ago.
Says the ASCN alt... tell you what .. why don't you do some research .. go find all the entities that have been called incompetent by BoB.... then come back, list them.. and you will find that they were actually incompetent.
If you do that.. I'll match you with entities that were competent and recieved their due praise.
And flaming me... doesn't prove your point.
PS - If you do bother to take up the challenge... provide quotes and time stamps + location of the quote.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.12.20 19:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic People who I respect through fighting them:.....
There are quite a few entities that have recieved praise over the years from yourselves, Diana, considerably more than you have listed.... should Slowboat wish to play.
I have a good memory when it comes to the forums..... I shouldn't cause its mostly garbage. From a certain period onwards, I'm pretty sure I can find anything I'm looking for.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.12.21 01:40:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 21/12/2006 01:43:56
Originally by: Christopher Multsanti
Nez when was the last time you were involved with BOB, they have changed a lot over the last year, same as fix.
One of those two has changed a lot, the other hasn't changed much at all..... I'll let you you figure out which is which.
One of the two you mentioned has had the same leadership core intact for the last 3 years, i.e the mentality is the same as it ever was. And you know I'm right.
Infact there is a quote that I've been wanting to use for a while...
"It's never necessary to tell me that you think I'm right. We'll just... assume it." Lt. Col. Gordon Tall, The Thin Red Line, 1998.
Its pointless arguing with me. 
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.12.21 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: Christopher Multsanti
Anyway your wrong, they have both changed, bob has in many ways, same leadership, different goals.
You spoke of a timespan of one year... I'm saying that in the last 2 and a half years at least, BoB hasn't changed much at all.
What is different about the entity that rolled on down south from the north and installed itself in Fountain, Delve PB? Sure the tools they are using have changed as have the game mechanics... but the ethos hasn't.... they are still in your face, aggressive, deadly and actually contrary to popular belief, honest.... ruthlessly so.
I don't really see any changes in mentality and outlook.
What do you see thats changed?
I mean, what BoB did to FA, they are doing to ASCN in pretty much the same way.. and like the FA conquest, the rest of EVE is looking on and not too unhappy with watching ASCN wriggle,kick and scream as the life is snuffed out of them.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.12.21 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Christopher Multsanti
The original point was that was that BOB gives respect to the enemies they has fought, the last enemy they gave respect to was fix. Then Molle made the statement I quoted above in the famous "there is no spoon" thread and started its campaign agaisnt FA.
Since then I have never seen molle or any BOB leader give respect to anyone they have fought. Every post from a bob leader is propoganda to drive down the morale of their enemy. That is how they have changed.
well....
Originally by: Blacklight 2006.11.21 Congrats to Omniscient Order on a good job and some nice stats.
Thats from the recent Omniscient Order contract taken out on BoB on behalf of ASCN. K so its not really an entity BoB had targeted for destruction.
But... since FA, lets see who *was* targeted for destruction... well there was Imperium and you know how much BoB love Aneu and Xirt. Then there was the southern pact which lasted for ages and BoB went on their 'roadtrip', so the north doesn't count. Stain Allaince aka Station Alliance, again Orc A was a very popular figure. Goonfleet with the Remedial solution. And now ASCN with Cryvok.
To be fair, the figures that were demonized by BoB in the above mentioned lineup, were also given a hard time by the rest of the community.... I don't know what that means.. but there you have it.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.12.21 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: Christopher Multsanti
I missed your point I think....Your agreeing with me then?
Not really.. .... the point I'm making is that by the end of the conflicts I mentioned the reputations of the entities "targeted for destruction" was non-existant, judged by the lack of sympathy they recieved on the EVE-O boards.
Now the interesting question, imo at least, is what came first the chicken or the egg?... In other words, were those entities viewed as incompetent because of BoB propaganda.. or because BoB propaganda exposed the reality of the situation, which the community at large then agreed with?
e.g Goonfleet... I mean at the time pretty much everybody wanted BoB to wipe them off the face of the earth. Orc A made SA very very unpopular, nobody helped them really. Same deal with Imperium.. the standard "Hi Aneu" is a running joke to this day. And now ASCN.. nobody gives a monkey's crutch if the die or not... infact most of us would rather it be over and done with as soon as possible.
Now is that on account of propaganda.. or was there something seriously wrong with those entities to start with and BoB just exposed it?
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